The Nephilim and the Pyramid of the Apocalypse



A query from France:

Dear Damien,

Do you know “The Nephilim and the Pyramid of the Apocalypse” by Patrick Heron (Kensington Publishing Corp., 2004).? It offers many interesting views on mythologies and Egypt.
I read it because I am writing an article on “the days of Noah” (Mt24:36-38 or Lc17:26) . Transhumanism looks terribly similar, if not much worse, to the deeds of the Nephilim before and after the Flood.
So I am just curious to know if you, perchance, have any opinion on this author and his theses.
I wish you a holy and merry Christmas !

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Damien Mackey replies:
 
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I once went to a lecture where it was even suggested that the Egyptians may originally have come from the Moon.
As I see it, the Nephilim came into being when the originally good Sethite line (the children of God) began to mingle with the corrupt Cain-ites. Their progeny were the Nephilim hybrids.
This was all pre-Flood (c. 2300 BC), of course, well before the Pyramids of Giza were built.
There were also giants after the Flood. Children of Ham, perhaps. Some think that Naamah was Noah's second wife, a Cain-ite, and that Ham procreated with her - the cursed Caanan being the outcome.
Surely the giants are archaeologically available to us still in the Neanderthal 'brutes', who could nonetheless be highly intelligent and capable of great deeds.
In any case, none of this has anything to do with fallen angels copulating with earth women, I believe. That is a ridiculous notion.
Almost a millennium later than the Flood, when Moses was young, the Hebrew slaves (amongst others) were the labour for the pyramids to be built (according to Josephus). This was Egypt's 4th dynasty.
Khufu, in my opinion, was the father of the Egyptian foster-mother of Moses, Merris (= Meresankh). Chephren (Greek Chenephres), Khufu's successor, was the husband of Merris.
The Hebrews did far more than that, they also laboured in mighty agricultural and irrigation works.
Obviously the overseers of all this labour were highly skilled men. But they were not non-humans, or demi-gods, or even UFO people.

Have a very happy and blessed Christmas yourself.
Damien M.

Comments

Unknown said…
the Old Testament the phrase “sons of God” always refers to angels (Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7).

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/sons-of-God.html#ixzz2qGJwWJfL
AMAIC said…
Not exactly. God called both David and Solomon, for instance, "Son [hence of God]".

AMAIC.
Unknown said…
Sons of God means heavenly beings, the sons of God came before the Lord in Job, three times it uses the exact word, and sons of man could NOT come before the Lord and even live... as with Moses, so that simply doesn't hold true.
AMAIC said…
You run into trouble following that view. See, e.g.:

http://hoowantstono.hubpages.com/hub/Sons-of-God-not-Angels

Thou art my Son


Hebrew 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

Luk 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

Through the many biblical reports and quotations, you will come to the point where understanding Hebrew and Greek is a big asset in your studies. ....

(Go to site for the rest of it).

Unknown said…
With deep respect and love for all who believe in the Trinity. The official old testament in my church, the Eastern Orthodox Church is the septuigint. and in Genesis 6:2,4 the LXX (the Septuagint) reads “Angels of God.” In the ancient church Justin Martyr, Tertullian, Cyprian, Ambrose, Lactantius, and the great majority of the early church fathers believed that the “Sons of God” of Genesis 6:1-4, was a reference to reprobate angels.
AMAIC said…
Thanks for your comment, Joshua.

I agree with those who consider that a mating of angels and human beings is faught with meatphysical difficulties.
E.g. Fr Echert (http://www.ewtn.com/vexperts/showmessage.asp?number=455303):

"While many scholars prefer to dismiss this entirely as myth which is borrowed from pagans cultures of the ancient near east, it is more appropriate to look for some truth and reality behind this mythical sounding text. Some of the Church Fathers, such as St. Augustine, Chrysostom, and Cyril of Alexandria suggested that the “sons of God” may refer to righteous descendants (men) of Seth who took descendants (women) of Cain as wives. In such a case, “sons of God” associates the men with the goodness of God whereas “daughters of men” would be intended as a contrast to this. This is typical of ancient Semitic expressions which must not be interpreted literally as we understand such constructions but in accord with the customary use of language at the time. Knowing the background of Cain as a killer and the bad blood of his descendants, it is no wonder that such unions would be regarded in a negative light, which unions led to a situation in which humanity was corrupted and unacceptable to God. On the other hand, it is said of Seth and his line that these were the first to reverence the Name of Yahweh. The word “Nephalim” literally means “fallen ones” which sense would be consistent with an interpretation that views this group as a corrupt mixture of good and bad blood. Other commentators have suggested that the “sons of God” were (fallen) angels who somehow mated with human women, but this does present metaphysical complications in light of the natures of each. For now, I find the Patristic solution the most satisfying". ©
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The JPL Bible calls them Divine Beings, in the old testament every time the phrase is used it is speaking of Angels not men...and it is a phrase not just the word sons or son...
AMAIC said…
I like the point below, angels cannot drown. Taken from: https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/702-genesis-6-1-the-nephilim

".... The most reasonable view of Genesis 6:1f is that the allusion refers to the fact that some men, from the godly lineage of Seth, called “sons of God” (an expression denoting those in covenant relationship with Jehovah — cf. Deuteronomy 14:1; 32:5), began to pursue fleshly interests, and so took wives of “the daughters of men,” i.e., those who were unbelievers. (Is there any principle that we can learn from this?)

The subsequent context seems to suggest that it was this carnal trend that ultimately brought the Flood, which prompts this interesting question. If the “sons of God” were angels, how did the Flood serve as a judgment upon them? Can angels drown?"

Damien Mackey.
No Problem said…
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No Problem said…
I agree with you that "sons of God" does not always mean angels. However, this is where our agreement ends.

It was not the angels that drowned; it was their progeny, the nephilim.

You should refer to the (First) Book of Enoch. You should also take heed of the many strange skulls and skeletal remains that are not human. We know they are not human because they have only one parietal plate instead of two. And their DNA is not human.

If it were just the case of Seth's line procreating with Cain's line, none of those non-human remains would've existed and neither would there have been giants. The Nephilim and Rephaim were literally giants. They were the product of fallen angels (Watchers) procreating with human women. The fallen angels are being kept in prison to be judged in the future.
Unknown said…
JUDE 6-7 Reinforces the angelic view.

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
DH said…
In Genesis, the story of the sons of God who co-mingled with women were angels. And though th term, sons of God, is referenced elsewhere in the Bible and in particular, the New Testament in the story in Genesis, the reference is to angels not human men.
Unknown said…
the fact still remains that they are gods creation rather human or not.
zotrules said…
Why would a sethite and a cainite produce a hybrid being? They both came from Adam.
Didn't all corrupt flesh die in the flood? If not, God acted in failure.
Besides, if you look carefully at Cain's genealogy,most of the names are godly.
Doesn't it also say that ALL FLESH was corrupt? So Seth's line too included.
When people talk about Cain and Seth it just baffles me. I don't know where such a stupid view would come from.
What does Daniel 2:43 really mean?
Why would a Christian have a problem if angels fell from heaven "forsaking their first estate"(jude 6) and mingled their seed with human women?
I don't see it...
Roxxii said…
wow I am stunned at the lack of scriptural references for your viewpoint. Its almost as if you are really pushing the seth-ite view which is totaly incorrect in my opinion. Your omment above "can angels drown" is utterly ridiculous. The Nephilim were the Offspring of the mating of fallen angels and mankind. The fallen angels are imprisoned in Tartarus Acording to the scripture! Their offspring, the nephilim were what was intended to be destroyed during the flood for the corruption of the "image of God, man" (thru dna corruption). After the flood they were referred to as rephaim. Please do some research before leading people astray from the truth...listen to steve quayle, rob skiba, tom horn, chris putnam or some of the other biblical researchers that have already done the research and can explain it to you easliy. they have scripture to back their claims...
Unknown said…
The Egyptian pyramids are a lot older than that, says recent research.
Unknown said…
The Egyptian pyramids are a lot older than that, says recent research.
Unknown said…
These are montages made for a competition in the United States.
has already been discovered years and years back. Why write mystery???
Unknown said…
These are montages made for a competition in the United States.
has already been discovered years and years back. Why write mystery???
Unknown said…
I am very grateful for all of you and your biblical knowledge! This is the subject that I have been researching and I could find no one to help me answer some of my questions. All you gentleman's have opened the door for me. Thank you!
Unknown said…
I am very grateful for all of you and your biblical knowledge! This is the subject that I have been researching and I could find no one to help me answer some of my questions. All you gentleman's have opened the door for me. Thank you!
Child of Christ said…
Luke 3:38 is speaking of Jesus as the son of GOD. In Hebrews again it speaks of Jesus as the son of GOD read from the first verse. Even into chapter two it speaks still of Jesus. David saw the moment GOD was saying that about Jesus in a vision for David being a prophet had the spiritual eyes open to see thisn
Child of Christ said…
This is firstly no evidence because the church follows what the word of GOD says and not "the first fathers" because they are not our LORD and Saviour. Paul was one of the fathers of the early church and as he said in Galatians 1:11-12 he was not taught the things he preach by any man but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. After Seth the bible says that men began to call on the name of the LORD (because whoever calls on it shall be saved). Romans 9:26 tells us that Gentiles were the one GOD spoke when He said they shall be called children of the living GOD. Also note no man could stand in the Holy presence of GOD and not die. Even Moses said I exceedingly fear and quake [at the mere sight of GOD] (Heb 12:21). Finally let us not forget that angels can take on human form and also eat human food (Genesis 19:1-3). If Nephalim meant good and bad blood mixed together then you are therefore calling all of Judah and Simeon nephillim because Judah and Simeon had Caananite wives (Genesis 38:1-2, 1st Chronicles 2:3, Genesis 46:1h0,Exodus 6:15).
Unknown said…
Very right sir
Wish to learn more about lamech's strange child
Unknown said…
How come there are giant sculls and skeleton bones seen dug up, yet never published in the main stream media, are such photos real or doubled faked ...Arturo
Roy Engle said…
Wrong! Sons of God are preisthood holders, servants of God. Children of God are baptised saints.
Roy Engle said…
I believe Adam & Eve were giants, like 15 to 35 feet tall. All the animals and dinosaurs were supersized. Hence, Noah & Shem too was supersized. Is Japeth like Greek gods, supersized?
cavemanss51427 said…
What a bunch of idiots you all are
Roy Engle said…
Jesus is both the Father and The Son! He is the only begotten physical son of God Elohim. He is the Father of our Salvation when we accept him thru baptism he has begotten us as Sons of God.
Unknown said…
why will no one answer are these giant skeletons real or not?
Unknown said…
The photo is a fake. It is one of many. The actual photo is just the skeleton in the sand. You can tell it is sand and without the little person (the fake bit) in the image, it looks quite normal and what would be expected. Now have a look at the bulldozer in the top right. If that isn't the dodgiest CGI..... It looks lame. The entire subject of these giant skeletons is BS. All the photos have been altered. All the stories are fake news.
hopetheyhurry said…
I believe I saw a giant once.... Peswhar Afghanistan. they called it a chinook crash. TBI is whatever one suffered from.... but I was never in a chinook that day. angels, fallen angels... doesn't really matter, does it? problem is which side does everyone chose. The "son" who only wanted fair treatment and love from his father although he handled it and still handles it like a small child who has to sit in the corner. or the impossible to please father with an inability to recognize his own hypocrisy....
Cameronita said…
I think all of you need to read Enoch 1. 1 Enoch
How big were the giants in the Bible? In 1 Enoch, they were “great giants, whose height was three hundred cubits.” A Cubit being 18 inches (45 centimetres), this would make them 442 ft 10 61/64 inch tall (137.16 metres). Was Goliath really 9 feet tall? Goliath was not an enormous giant, but certainly he was a head taller than the average man.
In our holy bible, it states that the giants had 6 fingers on each hand. Also in Enoch 1 it states: But in the 1 Enoch legend the crime is that of angels procreating mutant giants with human women. “And when the angels, the sons of heaven, beheld them, they became enamored of them, saying to each other, Come, let us select for ourselves wives from the progeny of men, and let us beget children.” (1 Enoch 7:2) It is a very interesting book that was taken out of our holy bible by the catholic church but it still remains in the Ethiopian bible. It sure does make the holy bible easier to understand on a few points. They were angels that procreated with earthly women. Enoch also expands on the watchers and their fate. They were bound by chains before the great flood by angels of God. Learn through studying.

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